<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556</id><updated>2012-02-24T22:21:36.104-05:00</updated><category term='criticism of religion'/><category term='jesus and thomas'/><category term='Christianity dying'/><category term='angering the religion of peace'/><category term='freedom of speech'/><category term='critical thinking'/><category term='side effects of faith'/><category term='science and religion'/><category term='search for guidance'/><category term='atheism'/><category term='social implications of religion'/><category term='islam treatment of women'/><category term='criticism of islam'/><category term='need for guidance'/><category term='child indoctrination'/><category term='scientific inquiry'/><category term='confirmation bias'/><category term='noah&apos;s ark'/><category term='skepticism'/><category term='religion'/><category term='jesus resurection'/><category term='carl sagan'/><category term='star stuff'/><category term='honor killing'/><category term='leaving a cult and its side effects'/><category term='hard-wired for belief'/><category term='agnosticism'/><category term='islamophobia'/><category term='how friendly can religion get towards science'/><title type='text'>Making sense of religion</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>10</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-6343897848956392987</id><published>2012-02-12T10:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-19T21:49:09.501-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='side effects of faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science and religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='critical thinking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='skepticism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity dying'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='child indoctrination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social implications of religion'/><title type='text'>Christianity's dying wish</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Imagine yourself in a court room, going through a hundred witnesses. At first glance, they all appear to be presenting concordant evidence; but there is one thing you cannot help but notice: They &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; strongly disagree with &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; the others on one fundamental part of each of their stories. E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ssentially&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;, they are &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; accusing everyone else of lying about one detail or another. To make this even more complicated; everyone swears to be telling the truth, only the truth. How plausible is this? How utterly suspect would this make their testimonies? On what basis could one possibly decide who to trust, without giving special consideration to one over all others, and for entirely subjective reasons? Is this not how Christians pick their denomination?&lt;/span&gt; Besides, how useless would these witnesses be to our current case? You might as well not have summoned &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;any of them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jnM7yA_YePs/TzdJIndAwdI/AAAAAAAAALs/_oGXJZfwW00/s1600/Galileo3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="202" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jnM7yA_YePs/TzdJIndAwdI/AAAAAAAAALs/_oGXJZfwW00/s320/Galileo3.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Galileo: Christianity's first encounter with reality.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Considering its history as a worldwide power structure, it would be quite an understatement today to say that Christianity has seen better days. The fact that it is literally divided in thousands of denominations &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;—&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; each exhaustively convinced that all the other ones are wrong about something &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;—&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; is&amp;nbsp; much too striking to be left ignored. Nonetheless, when their faith gets compared with others' in terms of numbers, Christians are ever willing to take refuge under the same comforting and quite unsubstantial umbrella of Christianity. Its symbolic membership of a billion+ scattered around the globe, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;and divided &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;on questions fundamental enough to justify separate denominations, is certainly a symptom of how clueless people really are about what to make of Jesus and the New Testament. We are talking about close to 38,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;000 denominations. At this rate, one may want to create his own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It used to be that the Catholic Church could dominate people's minds and actions to an extent that it cannot even dream of emulating now, and never again will. On the political scale, it was powerful enough to be taken seriously by the smartest of scholars when it publicly challenged testable natural phenomenons using scripture and dogma. T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;oday, a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ny scientifically literate person, religious or not, would find the idea completely laughable. Historically, whenever archaeologists, historians or scientists from other domains realized &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;parts of the Bible previously thought to be factual were false or couldn't &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; have&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; possibly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;happened, Christians plainly denied everything until they were finally forced to reason. In fact, many are still stuck in denial. As a last resort,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; they &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;declare it&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;conveniently &lt;/span&gt;obvious &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;that the faulty parts were no fairy tales, just a few more harmless allegories.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tmn7RffWH90/TzdRTLplmeI/AAAAAAAAAL0/ZjwO0L7oqbs/s1600/hitler_cardinal-nazis_.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="218" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tmn7RffWH90/TzdRTLplmeI/AAAAAAAAAL0/ZjwO0L7oqbs/s320/hitler_cardinal-nazis_.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Evil "atheists" having a little chat.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;For nearly a hundred generations, the death of Jesus Christ, by far the most important theme of Christianity, had been thought to redeem humanity for an "original" sin committed literally by our oldest ancestors: Adam and Eve. The couple who, according to evolutionary biology, could &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;never &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;possibly have existed, had reportedly performed the very immoral act of snacking from a &lt;i&gt;Tree of Knowledge&lt;/i&gt;. How paradoxical does it sound to you that people would write an allegorical story, claim it to be factual, then make &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;its central point&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; the doctrine that we are all doomed because our most distant parents committed the unholy act of seeking knowledge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;? For a holy book, it surely starts on a bad note. Without anyone presumptuous enough to challenge those teachings, how could people ever possibly have gained knowledge that it was nothing short of a baffling metaphor?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Even the awfully poignant story of baby Moses is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; now understood to have been fabricated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; Modern Jewish historians believe quasi-unanimously that none of their ancestors ever escaped from Egypt. Basically, the book of Exodus is a shameless lie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; The walls of Jericho never came tumbling down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; and nobody conquered Canaan; the Jews were simply not there at the time. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;God never had to split the sea for them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;and whoever wrote Psalm 74:13 is just another victim of this mythology. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;As we enter a new era of enlightenment, scholars are now doubting that Paul of Tarsus wrote half of the New Testament. That's too bad because he is the only one who wrote in it prior to the year 70 at the very least. His writings barely make mention of the many miracles and events that believing in later became a Christian obligation. He even&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; seems unaware that Jesus came as a physical being.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dIGoQwIgsRs/Tzc-wS-JdEI/AAAAAAAAALU/Oaiyl0pjdCw/s1600/mose-transports.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dIGoQwIgsRs/Tzc-wS-JdEI/AAAAAAAAALU/Oaiyl0pjdCw/s320/mose-transports.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Don't even count on it...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Over the last half-century, we have uncovered many ancient apocryphal manuscripts that could very well have been part of the canonical gospels. Obviously, they are not. The sole reason for this is that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;back then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;, self-proclaimed authorities one-sidedly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; determined which ones should be. These are the same geniuses who would rely on scripture to determine the age and shape of our planet. Please consider that since biblical times, people have spent thousands of years reiterating lies and spreading them through conquest, intellectual subjugation and control of the political as well as educational systems. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;They may claim for their defense that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;back then, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;nobody knew better, but to this we can respond: "What then were you for?" It is not becoming&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;obvious that day by day —&amp;nbsp;a&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;s a&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;consequence of their repeated incompetence&amp;nbsp;— we pay less and less attention to their opinions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;A few centuries ago, Christianity would not admit any wrongs; it would just torture people for disagreeing. Then it started apologizing to some; after they had died. More recently, Catholic authorities have started asking people forgiveness for raping away their childhood... yet many of them are still alive. At this rate, perhaps we will reach a point where it asks forgiveness for things it is doing right now, or so I remember Hitchens saying. Christianity is on its last stand; it was supposed to help the world but somehow contributed to much of its misery. Today, without the threats and the lies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;, indoctrinating children is just not as easy as it used to be. As Christianity draws its last breath, it may look back at its past glory, thinking in silence: "If only we had stuck to the program, exactly like the Islamists do, we wouldn't be in this mess, now would we, God? ... 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They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;- Christopher Hitchens &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;(April 13, 1949 – December 15, 2011) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wjTe1zFMrJc/TxpGjbSravI/AAAAAAAAAJg/GGH5DojfA2E/s1600/26813_104116_1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="219" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wjTe1zFMrJc/TxpGjbSravI/AAAAAAAAAJg/GGH5DojfA2E/s400/26813_104116_1.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Without a shadow of a doubt, two challenges we often get, coming from those making the apology of religion are: &lt;i&gt;"Why do we exist?&lt;/i&gt;" and &lt;i&gt;"What is our purpose?"&lt;/i&gt; To a large number of people, these are generally considered to be serious theological questions dealing with topics that are outside the grasp of scientific inquiry. Because the study of theology claims to have expertise on such subjects, whenever we get into a discussion about whether or not there is evidence of conflict between religion and science, we can almost expect to hear these given as examples. While it is true that science cannot afford to deal with such questions, it clearly has very good reasons not to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Ambiguous &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;topics like: "What is our purpose?" are loaded with dishonesty; and they&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; happen to be the trademark of religion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This type of questioning is fallacious as it hopes to trick you into accepting a hidden premise that it arrogantly &lt;b&gt;assumes&lt;/b&gt; you should accept. In fact, while most supernatural claims appeal to personal experience; knowing very well that our human senses are easily mistaken and very subject to hallucinations; whenever they don't, they rely entirely on subjective presuppositions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; You can try to find some that don't; you will not be able to, I promise. If we are to question honestly, it is crucial to ensure our questions are devoid of hidden assumptions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pw7aAFe7mTw/Txs3aczdXMI/AAAAAAAAAKg/davZVFgpdTU/s1600/pinnochio.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="239" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pw7aAFe7mTw/Txs3aczdXMI/AAAAAAAAAKg/davZVFgpdTU/s320/pinnochio.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Being able to formulate a question does not automatically grant that it is going to be a valid one. For example, if I offered you the moon in exchange for being able to tell me why it is that most birds cannot fly, would you think of me as a person worth sharing much of your time with? Chances are that you would picture me as nothing less than a complete moron. I could ask you a slightly more subtle one like: "Do you still beat your kids every Monday afternoon?" You may or may not be able to answer this one. The question implies that you do not work on Mondays. More seriously, it also suggests that you do have kids and that you have in fact beaten them in the past.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;At the end of the day (as politicians love to say), it all comes down to a very cumbersome issue with intellectual honesty. Regardless of its supposed authority and expertise, modern theology is rooted in dishonesty; it deserves to be exposed for it just as mainstream religion does. Studying it should not grant a PhD anymore than being an expert about extra-terrestrial ships or unicorns. Instead of asking loaded questions and proposing complex, unfalsifiable answers to them; it could state its hypotheses and shelve them if evidence is determined to be insufficient.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; After so much deception, religions have no other choice than to keep lying about the honesty of their assertions...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DbUMrjvtXgc/TxpKyKIQybI/AAAAAAAAAJw/bQXDeK986aU/s1600/Instant-water.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DbUMrjvtXgc/TxpKyKIQybI/AAAAAAAAAJw/bQXDeK986aU/s320/Instant-water.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Let us suppose for a moment that you have this very motivating part time employment in which your job is to sell a certain product. No matter what it is and regardless of whatits hidden flaws are, it makes perfect sense to highlight its strong points rather than focusing on the rest. A few months ago, you have been asked by your boss to attend special marketing classes. There, you are reminded of good reasons for believing in the product. You also find encouragement in the fact that hundreds of other people are attending; you work for a big company that cares for you. You are often reminded that if you do not really believe in what you are selling, you will never be successful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;You really need this because; perhaps I forgot to mention; the product you are selling is &lt;b&gt;invisible&lt;/b&gt;. The people you are selling it to are even expected to join your company and make sure that their children do not question the existence of your product. They are encouraged to attend the same meetings and help the company grow. As salespersons, you have to believe in what you are selling; it is the key to selling lots of it. If you do not have enough faith, you will not do well. That is probably the only thing you really know about your product. In any other context than religion, this situation would be regarded as problematic. But are we being fair, comparing religion to marketing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lF27QpmPQ8U/TxpisWbYIuI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/xg-QQWFsvoA/s1600/religion_and_money.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lF27QpmPQ8U/TxpisWbYIuI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/xg-QQWFsvoA/s320/religion_and_money.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;George Carlin said it best: As powerful as anyone may claim God to be, &lt;i&gt;somehow he always needs money&lt;/i&gt;. He needs it to fund the building of new churches and the worldwide spread of his message, whether it be through television, DVDs or the Internet. As I write this, Islam is pursuing its ambitions of covering the Earth; most of its funding coming from Saudi Arabia; tens of billions of petrodollars. The good new is that there will not be any more oil in a few decades. The bad new is that all three abrahamic religions are anxiously waiting for the end of the world. Add nuclear weapons in the equation and it gets truly tense for those of us who care about reality and its future.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is quite possible to ask honest, objective questions about religion but those are indubitably not going to be ones of a theological nature.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; There is no such thing as &lt;i&gt;personal truth&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;subjective truth&lt;/i&gt; and the fact that religion shamelessly encourages such way of thinking is not helping its case. Quite a few t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;housands of years ago, religion may have been a required step in our evolution; a counter-productive but necessary one that involved postulating hypotheses; drawing imaginary conclusions from these and mixing them up with reality. But as Sam Harris says so well, religions today are at most &lt;i&gt;failed sciences&lt;/i&gt;. Truthfulness left to suggestion; usefulness readily substitutable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-8258353563491130394?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/8258353563491130394/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2012/01/mass-marketing-dishonesty.html#comment-form' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/8258353563491130394'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/8258353563491130394'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2012/01/mass-marketing-dishonesty.html' title='Mass marketing dishonesty'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wjTe1zFMrJc/TxpGjbSravI/AAAAAAAAAJg/GGH5DojfA2E/s72-c/26813_104116_1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total><georss:featurename>Montreal, QC, Canada</georss:featurename><georss:point>45.5086699 -73.5539925</georss:point><georss:box>45.3306269 -73.8698495 45.6867129 -73.23813550000001</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-357135615694918453</id><published>2011-12-25T00:00:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-19T14:58:44.025-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='side effects of faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='critical thinking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confirmation bias'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='agnosticism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='child indoctrination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social implications of religion'/><title type='text'>Is traditional culture losing its grip?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Throughout history, an innumerable number of cultures have vanished from the surface of our planet and very few of these can brag about their traditions still being around and kicking. To this day, the longevity of ancestral customs is generally praised as a positive thing and mostly considered a sign of national intellectual wealth. Why is the observance of old traditions usually seen positively?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps do we tend to perceive this lastingness as the obvious result of an ever-increasing pool of accumulated wisdom to which succeeding generations must have gradually contributed over the ages. For example, acupuncturists are often proud to claim that their methods were intuitively developed millennia ago. Do they often realize how little scientific credibility this contributes to their field of work? The survival of old ideas is more than often seen as a sign that these are good ideas; is this a reliable way to evaluate their worth? We ought not to let our intuitions fool us so easily. The reasons why traditions survive are not so often linked to the gift of free inquiry. In most cases, they do so at the expense of other ethnic traditions and because of this simple fact, the ones who endure the test of time rarely turn out to be the most peaceful. Strangely enough, questioning the pertinence of keeping such ideas alive seems scandalous to a lot of otherwise reasonable people...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--Z3Q7bKLYQY/TvdeDTspFzI/AAAAAAAAAIw/DOxH9CmAZdM/s1600/French-Indian-War.jpg" imageanchor="1"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="241" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--Z3Q7bKLYQY/TvdeDTspFzI/AAAAAAAAAIw/DOxH9CmAZdM/s400/French-Indian-War.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All ideas are not born equal and when it comes to traditions, a problem is arising. We will have to face it eventually and one would need to be quite stubborn to deny it at this point in history: Different cultures hold to ancient beliefs often so contradictory that they cancel each other out. In each of these cases, they cannot logically both claim to be right without some serious explaining to do first; nevertheless, they just childishly insist that they are. This leads to conflicts that can span over generations. Eventually, people find themselves fighting over issues that have, overtime, become barren of any of their initial value. The only reason left to fight over these outdated issues can be nothing else than vengeance; grief created by so much reciprocal violence. In fact, it was a lot easier to keep these "family" conflicts alive when access to information was limited and tightly controllable. When confronted with conflicting ideas in an age of globalization and increased access to information, does holding to obscure claims made by forefathers make sense anymore?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are more and more people today who show no interest in being forced to procreate within a pre-established gene pool dictated by ancestors who did not know any better. In fact, if things keep going as they are, we can rightfully question what the word "culture" will mean a few generations from now. Unless we screw up with net neutrality, not so far in the future, global Internet access will have shaped our children's way of living in such a way that, as far as local cultural background is concerned, geographical frontiers will be mostly irrelevant. How will we then be supposed to determine which of all the contradictory sources of ancestral "wisdom" were worth listening to? Should we not all have been able to actively question our parents' teachings in the first place? Could we not have had a conversation that would have enriched us both? As we pass the second half of this century, globalization will probably have changed everyone's perception of what an "ethnicity" is. This will be unknown territory. Kids will not require stricture but additional support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zHUjX5SnXTo/Tvdh7bZm04I/AAAAAAAAAJI/nNVwvHxcuwI/s1600/cute%252Cpets%252Clove%252Cd%252C_%252Cb%252Cbird%252Ccat%252Ccats-bfaa427e0efe3de864e63130c3f40e12_h.jpg" imageanchor="1"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="265" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zHUjX5SnXTo/Tvdh7bZm04I/AAAAAAAAAJI/nNVwvHxcuwI/s400/cute%252Cpets%252Clove%252Cd%252C_%252Cb%252Cbird%252Ccat%252Ccats-bfaa427e0efe3de864e63130c3f40e12_h.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore, why would that kind of enrichment not be a source of intellectual satisfaction for us? Why should we not be filled with pride, raising critical thinkers capable of surpassing their masters (sometimes teaching us a thing or two)? Being the self-esteem junkies that we are, it seems that when it comes to parenting, we still see children as mere property. We easily tend to chose the much easier path of authority, insisting that intuitive experience equals rightness. For many, successfully raising a child still  remains too closely related to how blindly one adheres to the teachings of his parents; there is no room for intellectual development. No more must we remain slaves to our ancestors' way of thinking; we can get past these apish instincts. It seems at this point quite silly that we should allow ourselves to assign so much importance to the longevity of an idea that was never to be improved upon in the first place. We should be ashamed of considering the use of bronze age methods to try and measure our parenting abilities and our children's growth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you made the effort of reading this blog, then you are probably not the kind of person who would just dismiss evidence without giving it at least a minimum of thought. When  you open you eyes, you can feel the largeness of what you are looking at; both you and me could be wrong. When a child asks if grandma really is in heaven, it takes a lot of intellectual integrity and courage to tell the truth: that we wish we could know. Anything else we say is not based on verifiable proofs but on blind speculation. It takes courage to accept that he may not decide to think like us because it takes courage to admit that what we teach him may be wrong.&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; line-height: 115%;"&gt; Is it not because we care mostly about having children who think like us that we often display an overbearing image of certitude when confronted by them with our own ignorance? It is understandable that pride would be an important factor in getting the feeling that we have managed to raise a child successfully; it leaves me uneasy seeing how so many of us would rather just emulate the past than chose to question it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-357135615694918453?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/357135615694918453/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/12/is-culture-losing-its-crusade-against.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/357135615694918453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/357135615694918453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/12/is-culture-losing-its-crusade-against.html' title='Is traditional culture losing its grip?'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--Z3Q7bKLYQY/TvdeDTspFzI/AAAAAAAAAIw/DOxH9CmAZdM/s72-c/French-Indian-War.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>Montreal, QC, Canada</georss:featurename><georss:point>45.5086699 -73.5539925</georss:point><georss:box>45.3306269 -73.8698495 45.6867129 -73.23813550000001</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-1166912305760298785</id><published>2011-12-10T00:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-20T20:31:39.908-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='side effects of faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science and religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='need for guidance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='critical thinking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confirmation bias'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='skepticism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='search for guidance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scientific inquiry'/><title type='text'>Praying for a miracle</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;When I think of the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami, somehow I cannot help but remember hundreds of thousands of people &lt;i&gt;"Liking&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; a certain Facebook page called &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pray for Japan&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. Do you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q-TgtUJBbzg/TuOmNj-nc1I/AAAAAAAAAHg/oGhAn0i8N5Y/s1600/let__s_pray_for_japan_by_smiley_studio-d45pre7.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="236" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q-TgtUJBbzg/TuOmNj-nc1I/AAAAAAAAAHg/oGhAn0i8N5Y/s320/let__s_pray_for_japan_by_smiley_studio-d45pre7.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;I also recall seeing several friends' profile images changed into various pictures with the words &lt;i&gt;Pray for Japan&lt;/i&gt; embedded in them. It quickly became some sort of a &lt;i&gt;brand name&lt;/i&gt;. When I first &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;saw this, I sincerely thought it was kind of cute; I even considered clicking the "Like" button. Being an atheist, I guess you can imagine that I don't pray. Even if there was a God who can hear us, I doubt that any of our prayers would be good enough to convince such an absent being to help with the aftermath of a devastating tsunami, considering that he let the earthquake happen in the first place. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;What happened in Fukushima made me feel completely powerless. During the later parts of my teenage and for many years after, Japan had been my dream country; and now it was suffering terribly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; For a moment, my humanist side got the better of me: "If it can cheer &lt;b&gt;anyone&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; up, then why not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;?" and I did consider joining, if only as a symbolic display of friendship and support. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;If&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; you did click&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;, there is clearly no harm in it. Looking back, however, I am glad I chose to abstain myself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The moment I heard news of what happened, I started browsing for reports. There clearly were no signs of an all-powerful being helping to cool down the reactors or preventing radioactive wastes from spreading into the Pacific. He could easily have if he wanted. In fact, is it not claimed in ancient religious books that he created the universe? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Though I knew it certainly was not intended to be,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; at that point, praying for supernatural support seemed more like a joke in poor taste. Talks of prayer in a situation like that sounded a bit like saying: "I could donate something, perhaps send a word of encouragement; or write a song and put it up on YouTube; or maybe even send some of my hard earned money to a relief fund, but no; I think I should just close my eyes and say a little prayer before I go to bed. God can handle this for me." Thinking about Fukushima also reminded me of the Haiti earthquake that affected several of my friends' families in 2010. All these powerless devout Christians crying in pain after losing their parents and their homes, wondering how a loving deity could allow such a merciless series of calamities to devastate an already devastated country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eg75PMTr6s4/TuK9Tm2SZaI/AAAAAAAAAHI/JN0UYUQKu2E/s1600/Picture+1.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="263" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eg75PMTr6s4/TuK9Tm2SZaI/AAAAAAAAAHI/JN0UYUQKu2E/s400/Picture+1.png" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Religion: Helping children misconstrue reality since the Paleolithic.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Perhaps is it needless to say; t&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;here are very few atheists living in Haiti. How a just God would let countries who fear him the most have it like this while at the same time nothing ever happens to us Canadians who answered &lt;b&gt;68% negatively&lt;/b&gt; after watching a recent public debate asking: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u_Jpm8MASg" target="_blank"&gt;I&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u_Jpm8MASg" target="_blank"&gt;s religion a force for good in the world?&lt;/a&gt; is beyond religious comprehension. We all know that God's ways are supposed to be mysterious, but this is not mysterious; this is just absurd and saddening. If he would rather spare the infidels and let his own devout followers suffer terrible pain, where is the incentive in worshiping a god like that? If Yahweh is letting an ultra-Christian country &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;eat all the dirt &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;while the millions of atheists and agnostics living in Canada are &lt;i&gt;getting all the pussy&lt;/i&gt;, do you seriously think it is likely to get any better in heaven? If a coworker acts like an asshole towards you whenever he gets the chance, do you really think it would improve the relationship if you guys became roommates? Did God chose not to prevent the earthquakes (because he could have) as a punishment for some sins Haitians committed in the past; or were they just forgotten by an all-powerful omnipotent and omniscient being who is supposed to be all-knowing? If I could not &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;yet &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;convince you, I do hope I made my point regarding why I find your imaginary &lt;i&gt;friend&lt;/i&gt; a little awkward.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;As weeks passed, the more I kept seeing and hearing about this &lt;i&gt;Pray for Japan&lt;/i&gt; movement, the more it became pathetically depressing. Obviously, if God never gives any clear priority to those who worship him vs. those who don't, he is probably not going to do much about earthquakes and nuclear reactors either. Why then waste time asking? In fact, the worse the conditions became for the homeless and starving tsunami victims, the more this "online praying" frenzy began to disgust me, big time. I could not get myself to accept that all these young people could seriously see anything pertinent in the unprovable power of prayer. I mean, come on... the power of prayer? You've got to be kidding me. Surely lots of them had joined out of political correctness or to show their mental support. Prayer seems so much like a cowardly excuse to do nothing while feeling that you are actually doing something. It is in my humble opinion the most counter-productive way ever invented to consume the time of honest, well intentioned people. How far can wishful thinking bring anyone? As far as the poorest and most religious countries in the world, perhaps? We both know how it can seem impossible to move on when &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;feeling abandoned&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; deeply depressed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;, but...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LXyFf1bePs4/TuLmduC4iPI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/bLvLxdntzuw/s1600/005.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="256" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LXyFf1bePs4/TuLmduC4iPI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/bLvLxdntzuw/s320/005.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;According to statistics, these men are probably both atheists.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;But the Japanese know better. They don't need our prayers. Financial help is welcome, sure. Perhaps even psychological help; encouragement; real help; anything that can be measured in some way. Even without it, the Japanese have always been able to get through the hard times without help from the all powerful abrahamic God. Come to think of it, during World War II, they did have something very similar to a religion. Their "religion" was a political one and their demi-God was the Emperor. He was supposed to be able to save them; they were confident that with him they were invincible. As a chosen people, they were destined to rule the world and the sacrifice they were making was just part of a greater plan. On&amp;nbsp; January 1, 1946, after Emperor Hirohito gave his &lt;a href="http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266804/Hirohito" target="_blank"&gt;second public speech&lt;/a&gt; admitting that he was not so divine after all, &lt;b&gt;that's&lt;/b&gt; when the Japanese people understood what it feels like waking up from centuries of religious delusion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;What a coincidence it is that today, roughly &lt;a href="http://goo.gl/ZQD2H" target="_blank"&gt;84% of them claim not to have any formal religious affiliation&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It is too bad that this kind of truth is not spoken of publicly more often; it could really help. Unfortunately, our average Gods rarely step down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; and confess&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; to the world that they are&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; imaginary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;But doesn't prayer seem to work sometimes? The truth is that, yes, it does sometimes. But it has consistently shown to make the person who &lt;b&gt;does&lt;/b&gt; the praying feel better, not those being prayed for. Besides, it may make you feel better but it will never help you learn algebra; nor make you better in bed. If we pray for rain long enough, it does rain eventually, but we all know why that is. Of all the NFL teams who were praying for God to help them win the Super Bowl, only one ended up winning and they probably thanked God for that; such is the absurdity of prayer in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;modern &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;pop culture. We must realize that improbable things, however improbable, are bound to happen if given enough time to. Somebody always ends up guessing the winning numbers because there are too many people playing for that not to happen. And yet the question we cannot help but ask is: Suppose you knew that no one was up there to hear your lamentations, what would you have tried to accomplish in the meantime? The purpose of this article was not just to depress you or to discredit the value of hope. I think we can both agree on one thing: We are much more valuable to society when we actively get involved than if we just trust an invisible parent to solve every problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uhKj2RJ-EzI/TuOvOuYKd7I/AAAAAAAAAHo/YhkX0O9EakU/s1600/Clipboard01.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uhKj2RJ-EzI/TuOvOuYKd7I/AAAAAAAAAHo/YhkX0O9EakU/s400/Clipboard01.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Could you guess exactly how much praying was involved in conceiving the ISS?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Yes, prayer can help someone by providing him with hope; the same way that feeling loved by his family can help a patient get better more easily than one who is alone, suffering from depression. Reading your astrology can make you smile if it says that everyone is going to fall in love with you today; but wishful thinking can only do so much when it is someone else who is praying for you. A &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html" target="_blank"&gt;scientific study on prayer&lt;/a&gt; revealed that patients who thought they were being prayed for (whether or not it was the case), got slightly worse, possibly because of higher stress levels caused by the pressure they felt to get well. Other than that, there were no noticeable differences. Recently, a group of people in the UK &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSOoqP6zCYI" target="_blank"&gt;stopped taking their HIV medication&lt;/a&gt; after being told that if they prayed hard enough it would be perfectly fine. Guess what? They are now dying and it is too late. God is not there to help. Tibetans are still hoping for the Dalai Lama to come back and rescue them. What if they could realize that until &lt;b&gt;they&lt;/b&gt; take action, they will never obtain the freedom they crave?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Don't get me wrong. I may be quite pessimistic about religion in general but I am not yet a cynic. When it comes to most religions today, there is an evolution going on and there is room for hope. They can become more pragmatic; more realistic; more honest. They could abandon most of their empty claims to divine knowledge and still remain useful. But for most people who live under difficult conditions and rely on faith to find comfort, praying is a good way to prolong misery while thinking that they are working on the issue. Once they realize it has no use whatsoever, waking up from their delusion may hurt for a while, but until they finally accept to deal with the facts, and until we all start working together at improving things ourselves, no matter how incredibly difficult it sometimes is, things will progress slowly. Is it not time that we started acting self-determinedly? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Drifting helplessly through this perplexing universe, and u&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ntil &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;further notice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; we are &lt;b&gt;all &lt;/b&gt;by ourselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-1166912305760298785?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/1166912305760298785/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/12/praying-for-japan.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/1166912305760298785'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/1166912305760298785'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/12/praying-for-japan.html' title='Praying for a miracle'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q-TgtUJBbzg/TuOmNj-nc1I/AAAAAAAAAHg/oGhAn0i8N5Y/s72-c/let__s_pray_for_japan_by_smiley_studio-d45pre7.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total><georss:featurename>Montreal, QC, Canada</georss:featurename><georss:point>45.5086699 -73.5539925</georss:point><georss:box>45.3306269 -73.8698495 45.6867129 -73.23813550000001</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-6741438554140583400</id><published>2011-12-02T18:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-16T23:29:19.313-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='critical thinking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confirmation bias'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='agnosticism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scientific inquiry'/><title type='text'>A misconstrued debate</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Atheism is to religion what bald is to hair color." &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you ever asked any self-proclaimed atheist to define what agnosticism means to him; or vice versa? The more I ask, the more I get the impression that for a majority of people, it is a mere matter of personal preference. Some of us possibly looked it up in a dictionary, found several definitions and memorized one of them. Many theists must have learned it at church during a sermon. For others, it may have been an atheist channel on YouTube; perhaps a web page like this one. To me, what seems to be happening is very quite possibly the result; or should I say &lt;i&gt;reflection&lt;/i&gt;; of our human brain's obsession with labeling everything into categories. We say: "Men are like this." or "Americans act this way." We should know that statistically, we are doing it wrong. We are just experiencing sampling bias. Do we realize how many people would need to be polled for us to get anything worthy of statistical validity, not considering the error margin? What sample are my fellow male representatives of humankind basing themselves on when they make ridiculous claims about how they have noticed women are, based on their past failed relationships?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People are like this, they tend to make such claims. But here's a question that I hope you will find interesting: What do you think happens if you try to put a label on something that cannot be labeled in the first place? For example, how would you label someone who does not believe in homeopathy? A homeopatheist? Let's pretend we lived in a world in which "everyone" trusts homeopathy to be able to cure most, if not all, illnesses. As firm believers of the unscientifically proven virtues of homeopathy, we would most likely become critical of anyone's non-willingness to believe. Yet, considering the fact that our belief is based on nothing more than faith, isn't it quite obvious that it would be silly to invent a word for such a &lt;b&gt;specific&lt;/b&gt; type of non-belief? What if this man believes in homeopathy but instead says he does not believe in science? Would it make him a &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt;? Perhaps we could call him ignorant about how science works but it would certainly not require any special label. As a matter of fact, there is no label for people who disbelieve the idea that science is a dangerous satanic cult; or those who refuse to accept that Elvis is still alive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7hdPt5xJQgU/TtnQmAInk3I/AAAAAAAAAGo/uxAUnfl0zxY/s1600/label+sexy.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="278" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7hdPt5xJQgU/TtnQmAInk3I/AAAAAAAAAGo/uxAUnfl0zxY/s400/label+sexy.jpeg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Most of the labels we put on people really aren't that useful...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;In this article, I am not going to try and push you to accept any specific definition of agnosticism or atheism. After much debating around this matter, I find that it is counter-productive; besides, I fear that such kind of quarreling does very little, aside from making us forget about more important issues. After all, don't we both know that if no one wants to agree on the meaning of a word anymore, there's a good chance it has already become obsolete? I think what we need is a broader understanding of why there is confusion in the first place. This way, whoever we are dealing with, we will be able to know both what they mean and how to be understood by them. Language was never about trying to convince others that our own vocabulary is better; it is about agreeing on how to name things and trying to be good at it at a given time; all these efforts just so we can be able to understand each other. Who knows; perhaps is free speech some kind of a threat to the traditional concept of language? If we all start feeling entitled to our own personal opinion of what words should mean and start crusading around, trying to convince others that they need to speak differently, this could add quite an unpredicted spin to the evolution of languages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No longer do we want to submit to an unquestioned authority; we all aspire to be free from rules and this could eventually affect how we view grammar too. How then we would adapt to this seems completely left to chance. Ahh... forgive me; back on topic: In some cases, an irrational debate about what a word actually means can be a problem, especially when that word happens to represent a massive yet unpopular "getting out of the closet" movement. Probably well over hundreds of millions of nonbelievers have spent an eternity hiding, lying, being ostracized, beaten, sued and killed; now they're the latest taboo that nobody really wants to hear about. It seems just like homosexuality was about a decade ago (at least here where I live). When I first heard about the word &lt;i&gt;atheist&lt;/i&gt;, it was presented to me as a rejection of God; a denial of something which is real. In fact, a quick web search tells us that the original word used to mean &lt;i&gt;godless&lt;/i&gt;, nothing more. So it could either mean one who rejects God(s) or one who doesn't accept the claim that there are any. It could even mean someone who wishes there was one but cannot possibly get himself to believe that. It can carry a handful of meanings, and thus it can easily become quite meaningless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-euq8aFVWBlk/Ttmgb2tI1YI/AAAAAAAAAFo/TivAV9shIMM/s1600/labeled.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="307" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-euq8aFVWBlk/Ttmgb2tI1YI/AAAAAAAAAFo/TivAV9shIMM/s400/labeled.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;That our brain would attempt to classify things into simpler categories when confronted with large numbers, is understandable. Actually, the word &lt;i&gt;religion&lt;/i&gt; is perhaps the best example of this. For instance, we nonbelievers generally make use of it to represent thousands and thousands of mutually-canceling beliefs and doctrines held by billions of people. This can arguably lead to a pretty shallow definition, once you think of it. As Sam Harris says so well, the word &lt;i&gt;religion&lt;/i&gt; is a lot like the word &lt;i&gt;sport&lt;/i&gt;. Some are completely harmless while others are quite dangerous or violent. But religious people don't see it this way. Most expect their religion to be the only one while all others are just cults; fakes. To them, there is only one religion; or at least, there is only one that really is true. When I use terms such as &lt;i&gt;atheism&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;faith&lt;/i&gt;, I do this being fully aware that all kinds of people will read the same words differently. Not much can be done about it; except perhaps trying to be as clear as possible... I have to admit that on quite a few occasions, I have wondered what I should call myself. An agnostic-atheist, perhaps? Maybe just a skeptic; or possibly a humanist?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yet the more I think about it, the more it turns out that I am all of the above. I'm a believer of many things. I even believe in love. I just don't hold to my personal beliefs like if they were some kind of sacred truth; they can be influenced by solid evidence; any day. Some people would like to call that agnosticism, but is it? I'm indeed agnostic about my beliefs; I realize that I don't know whether there is a creator or not; but I also realize that my decisions on the matter bare no effect on reality. I do not think that not knowing something does in any way mean not being able to know, ever. Agnostics I speak to usually assume that since we cannot know at the moment, we should remain &lt;i&gt;neutral&lt;/i&gt;; although for any subject other than religion, it remains perfectly acceptable to reject someone's hypothesis if that rejection is based on the fact that he has no clue how he came to his conclusions after being given years to dig the subject. To me, this view is flawed, and it is perfectly normal to believe that someone has got to be mistaken if he has not made an ounce of progress researching an issue, other than being able to say: "I just know it in my heart, okay!?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ExqgZX4DkY/TtmqmZKAo_I/AAAAAAAAAGI/UU4RItKYqak/s1600/crowd.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="231" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1ExqgZX4DkY/TtmqmZKAo_I/AAAAAAAAAGI/UU4RItKYqak/s400/crowd.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;No matter how many people agree on something, they could still be wrong.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Ironically enough, the word "atheist" can even be applied to theists. Let us suppose that you are a Muslim. Given the possibility to travel back in time, you end up in Denmark a few thousand years ago. As you are standing there in disgust, you see all these people around you believing in the existence of Thor. To them, you are an atheist. You do not believe in God. Realize that the label is interchangeable, depending on the belief. But how about them? Are they not atheists too because they don't believe in the abrahamic God? Of course, but only in your perception since you come from a future riddled with different traditions. Obviously, I am more atheistic than that; I go "one god further" and my skepticism is greatly influenced by the lack of data that would be required to justify claiming to know so much about these supernatural beings and their personal attributes. That we do not have any more empirical data on "modern" popular deities than on any other ancient deities, is an often overlooked fact. To this day, our reasons for believing in these divine entities are still pretty much the same as for older forms of mythology: Fear of death and hopes of an afterlife.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, it seems that the word "atheist" comes loaded with so much negative baggage today that many who share my opinions; although they can relate to the concept; are reluctant to deal with all the social pressure that coming out as such would imply. How many of them realize that the main reasons why they hesitate are social reasons; religious reasons? For most people of strong faith, atheism is nothing more than foolish certainty; it is a form of faith in itself. Is it not paradoxical that theists would view atheism as unreasoned &lt;b&gt;because&lt;/b&gt; they view it as faith-based; while at the same time, they view their own faith as a good thing? Well, let's have them deal with their own cognitive dissonance; I have never been too fond of mental projection. As of now (and my mind may change in the future) I feel that the word "atheist" is the best way to describe my rejection of their empty claims. Although the word "theist" can itself bear many different meanings, considering the social context in which we live, so far, I think that defining myself as &lt;b&gt;a&lt;/b&gt;theistic is the best way to depict my view that the deities most theists are referring to nowadays, deplorably lack in credibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gSbZXVyF0gE/TtnLbedfZNI/AAAAAAAAAGY/ivX2Ua1IZDY/s1600/Youre-Doing-It-Wrong-039.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="267" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gSbZXVyF0gE/TtnLbedfZNI/AAAAAAAAAGY/ivX2Ua1IZDY/s400/Youre-Doing-It-Wrong-039.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;It does take more time for some to realize when they're doing it wrong.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Whenever presented with supernatural propositions like the possible existence of fairies or the unlikely idea that Elvis may still be alive somewhere, we don't waste time making individual labels for each kind of non-belief; even less would we put those in a dictionary. We also don't claim that the only reasonable position is to assume there is an equal probability between yes and no; and teach this as fact to our children; all this just because we know we don't know. All scientific discovery seems to point in the direction that no intelligence was required for the universe to "create itself" out of what we &lt;b&gt;perceive&lt;/b&gt; as &lt;i&gt;nothingness&lt;/i&gt;. As a nonbeliever of unfounded claims, I simply say that because we have even less empirical data on "God" than we have on homeopathy, we can certainly afford to say that until further notice, all divine claims are just loaded with bull. We should all know by now that there is no viable way to label the act of not accepting a proposition. The stigma around atheism isn't anymore relevant than the ones around homosexuality and gender equality. It truly doesn't matter how many believe or don't; we all know why so many of us still do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parents just tell their toddlers that the belief is not a belief; then let them figure out by themselves that it was actually one after all; at which point in their life they have become so convinced already, that the indoctrination is almost irreversible. We could believe an infinity of statements; we all know that if we did on the basis of faith alone, we wouldn't have gotten very far yet. We are all capable of grasping the idea that rejecting a specific belief about any of the thousands of deities that our ancestors were worshiping in the past, is perfectly reasonable. This does not need justification and neither does it require us to stay forever doubtful about any claim that anyone could come up with at any time. Certainly we all have rejected allegations before, based on the idea that these were preposterous and pretentious; this is nothing new under the sun. We cannot help but reject the ones for which there is absolutely no evidence. When it comes to one belief or another, we are all atheists, skeptics, believers and sinners in at least someone else's point of view. These labels are up for us to accept and assume; or to reject and dissociate from. 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If we are to believe debates found over the Internet; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;pitting atheistic and theistic ideas against one another; for people of faith the answer to this question seems to be a unanimous &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;yes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;". In fact, t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;here appears to be a strange agreement a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;mong an alarming number of religious people stating t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;hat science is just another kind of faith. Out of respect for intellectual freedom, s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;houldn't we just let people think what they want&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;? Perhaps, yes. And yet, what if they plan to indoctrinate their children with this misrepresentation of science? Are any of us in this day and age morally entitled to handicap future generations by spreading confusion about what words as primordial to modern life as "science" and "belief" actually mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Of course, there are quite a few clearheaded believers out there; lucid people who can provide rather decent &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po0ZMfkSNxc" target="_blank"&gt;reasons&lt;/a&gt; for why they believe. That’s great. But sadly, the general trend seems to be a lot closer to something along these lines: “I realize that truth is not a matter of opinion and that there can only be one truth. But look, this is what I believe. Faith is a personal issue that deals with feelings and personal experience with God. Very deep in my heart, I know God’s word to be truth and faith in my God is what leads me to know that he is true. It is my own personal truth and nobody should try to push his beliefs on me. Why not respect each other and just let people make up their mind about why God is true?” If you’ve never heard about &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;circular reasoning&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, this is a great example for starters. Considering how much of our daily life is dependent on scientific discovery and how much our future is bound to be directly influenced by scientific advancement, it truly scares me to think that so many people around me would rather not try understanding any of it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vRMv9DtaWZI/TtLCk686eLI/AAAAAAAAAFA/8BTs_-y1hcg/s1600/100831201424-large.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vRMv9DtaWZI/TtLCk686eLI/AAAAAAAAAFA/8BTs_-y1hcg/s320/100831201424-large.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;What's so bad about having ape cousins really?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;As stated in my previous article entitled &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://weareallatheists.blogspot.com/2011/11/search-for-guidance.html" target="_blank"&gt;The search for guidance&lt;/a&gt;, I personally advocate that we should &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;avoid confusing mere ignorance with an actual lack of intellectual faculties; holding this view doesn't make us any better than most theists; besides, it is doomed to be completely biased. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Considering our limited time and capacities as human beings, isn't it true that we are all ignorant about an infinity of subjects? The difference is that we actually don't let dogma limit our quest for knowledge. But how are we supposed to face profound ignorance without being at least a little condescending? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;First, whenever trying to introduce someone to a new idea, it is always better if we don't look profoundly ignorant ourselves about what his beliefs are. We can draw attention to ideas he already believes in and provide enough interesting evidence that contradicts them; if these ideas are presented coherently, chances are that he will want to question them in private. This is not just about us trying to feel good for scoring points during a debate; the primary aim should be to share important information with people who deserve better than what religion has to offer them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Perhaps should we also focus more effort on breaking counter-productive myths about science, making it clear that many religious questions are well within its scope. Believers are often fond of the idea that science and religion ought to be mutually exclusive; it is a comforting thought for them. They easily forget that centuries ago, there was a lot more that religion not only pretended to explain by supernatural causes but went as far as threatening those who doubted it with eternal suffering in hell. As science gradually figured out naturalistic explanations to an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;increasing number of subjects&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;, religion &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;was&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt; forced to give up on many of its preposterous claims to &lt;i&gt;divine knowledge&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QKu3XeRDlHY/TtT0X-xF2sI/AAAAAAAAAFg/iZRrVZ3E1_o/s1600/christianscience.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="216" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QKu3XeRDlHY/TtT0X-xF2sI/AAAAAAAAAFg/iZRrVZ3E1_o/s320/christianscience.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Today, mainstream religion focuses on morals, insisting that we cannot be moral without God. That's because there aren't a lot of subjects left for it to have anything to say about. But it may be interesting to ask: When during the course of evolution did we humans start having an immortal soul and why? What qualified one particular generation of apes for eternal heavenly life that previous ones did not have enough divine worth to be entitled to? Supposing we all go to heaven, will the good bacterias (&lt;/span&gt;e.g. &lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;probiotics) also be living there with us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;? If not then on what basis can one species claim to have an eternal soul and not others? Did Neanderthals not have souls too?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Most try to avoid ideas like these because they create cognitive dissonance. This dissonance can easily make us sad and depressed. Quite understandable; nobody likes to feel wrong, let alone having to admit that someone else was right all along. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We also avoid most questions about death, probably because they remind us of the people we lost. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;To a person who is open-minded and curious enough to be reading this, it must be quite easy to realize that the theory of evolution does not say that from one day to another, a monkey mom gave birth to a human baby; or that one fish decided to come out of the water and suddenly realized it could walk. Without needing to consult a science book, you could &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;probably &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;guess that amphibians came in between. But when speaking to people who were never exposed to any of the scientific evidence for evolution, it is often quite difficult to come up with a simple way to explain how evolution works. Often, your interlocutor will simply dismiss the idea as ridiculous by stating overused straw man arguments like: “You've never seen any fish with hands, have you?” or “How can you explain the complexity of the human eye?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CO2pvnwb6Sk/TtML-xxYQXI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/W6T6rJxUHY0/s1600/fish-with-hands1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CO2pvnwb6Sk/TtML-xxYQXI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/W6T6rJxUHY0/s320/fish-with-hands1.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Well... well... what have we here?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;As a good conversation starter, let me propose a nice analogy that seems to succeed with most, simply because it bases itself on a concept that anyone even slightly familiar with Europe can easily understand: Language. Let's take the example of Latin which evolved to become several other languages like Spanish, French, Portuguese and Italian. The main thing that sets French appart from Latin is that it's not extinct yet. There was no way to prevent Latin from changing over time and the only reason why we gave each a different name was because we decided to. In fact, French is Latin; and so are Spanish, Italian and Greek. Did one Latin-speaking mom ever give birth to a French-speaking child? Parents simply teach their offspring to speak the language(s) they know. They teach it imperfectly and in turn, children teach it imperfectly too; evolution is inevitable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Given that your interlocutor is honest enough to admit that he gets it, we could say that you’ve just discovered light in a seemingly very dark room. It wasn’t so hard. It’s now time to help your friend make the connection and realize that children are not identical to their parents either. They can’t possibly be since their parents are both different from each other in the first place. Evolution is a simple, unforgiving and never ending process over the course of which change cannot help but happen. Just like any language can split into a multitude of completely different forms &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;over vast time periods,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; living bodies adapt to changing environments and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;eventually &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;end up giving root to completely different species. Suddenly, it turns out that your colleague understood the concept of evolution &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;already&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;. A few late (yet not too late) neural connections have now been made in his brain and for good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; Perhaps are you now both in the mood for a little conversation about reincarnation...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZEH0kPMbXuo/TtMM3M6COiI/AAAAAAAAAFY/aEuFadw5qMI/s1600/nasa-primordial-quasar3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZEH0kPMbXuo/TtMM3M6COiI/AAAAAAAAAFY/aEuFadw5qMI/s320/nasa-primordial-quasar3.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;"We're made of star-stuff." -Carl Sagan-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I believe it should be a priority to keep this frank but respectful; a dialog between science and religion must be maintained at all cost&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;. Understanding the importance of science, as well as its role in our daily lives, may prove to be vital for our future. The intent is not to hurt anyone's pride but to help others use their mental capacities in a way that perhaps they never tried before (courtesy of religious indoctrination). You could point out that although the concept of immortal soul isn't very plausible, we have all been lifeless for an eternity before we were born. We know exactly how it feels not to be alive; there's nothing scary about it. The atom particles that make up our bodies came from somewhere else in the universe. They don’t belong to anyone; they just travel around.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;We are made from the same components as anything else that surrounds us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;This stuff we're made from, which we now know came from stars very long ago, will possibly allow other living beings to survive and thrive long after we're gone, as long as time exists in this universe. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;For a small instant in time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; and from an incredibly rare point of view&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;, we are having the privilege of witnessing it happening. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Un&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;like reincarnation,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; this is more than just unfalsifiable speculation. The fact that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;all of our body constituents&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="short_text" id="result_box" lang="en"&gt;&lt;span class="hps"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; will forever remain somewhere as part of the cosmos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; is real and demonstrable; much more poetic and stirring than anything that ape-inspired mythology or individualistic wishful thinking could ever hope to rival. We're dealing with truth here; simple truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-5793016126191803268?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/5793016126191803268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/dealing-with-harmless-scientific.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/5793016126191803268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/5793016126191803268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/dealing-with-harmless-scientific.html' title='Facing ignorance and disinterest in science'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vRMv9DtaWZI/TtLCk686eLI/AAAAAAAAAFA/8BTs_-y1hcg/s72-c/100831201424-large.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>Montreal, QC, Canada</georss:featurename><georss:point>45.5086699 -73.5539925</georss:point><georss:box>45.3306269 -73.8698495 45.6867129 -73.23813550000001</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-2256603888129437823</id><published>2011-11-24T00:23:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T19:41:36.475-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='side effects of faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='leaving a cult and its side effects'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='child indoctrination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social implications of religion'/><title type='text'>Leaving a cult and its side effects (behind)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;If there's one thing I learned from being in the Jehovah Witnesses for 19 years, it's that what people like to refer to as &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;truth&lt;/i&gt;, is very often just misguided hope. The actual truth, considering how little we can really know about it, usually turns out to be slightly less convenient.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;As early in life as I can remember, I had to attend boring religious meetings, three times a week. About one-hundred persons in a "kingdom hall" would proceed to read a few pages from a book or article written and printed by the organization. Someone would read out loud, others would take care of carrying a set of microphones &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="short_text" id="result_box" lang="en"&gt;&lt;span class="hps"&gt;along the rows of seats&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;. People would raise their hand to get a chance to share their &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;personal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; answer to one of several questions they were supposed to have prepared for in advance; pretty one-sided questions. This &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;could last up to two hours (including some depressingly repetitive monologues); at the end we had to stay for a while still, to &lt;i&gt;fraternize&lt;/i&gt;. Little could I know that what I was witnessing was not Jehovah, but the mind-control tactics of a religious cult. It's not as if I really had a choice; although it taught me quite a bit about patience.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;I was made to memorize prefabricated answers to provide when teachers or other children would question why I wasn’t celebrating holidays or why I didn’t want them to sing me Happy Birthday. I was told that the end was near and that every single person on Earth was about to die, except us and those whom we could manage to save. Around the age of 6 or 7, I was warned against making friends with pretty much anyone around me. The reasoning was that if I became close with non-Jehovah Witnesses, I would be very sad watching them die on the day of Armageddon; and Armageddon was coming soon. It’s still coming soon. I’m not afraid about God murdering my friends anymore, but it did teach me about what careless dishonesty can do to the mind of a child.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KyVddjDuYt4/Ts8pd7khLbI/AAAAAAAAAEw/lYOO6xDbAu0/s1600/nonjw.jpg" imageanchor="1"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="196" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KyVddjDuYt4/Ts8pd7khLbI/AAAAAAAAAEw/lYOO6xDbAu0/s320/nonjw.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;Being a teenager wasn’t easy either; it was even harder. Before I even knew what an erection is, I was warned against the dangers of homosexuality, masturbation, pornography and adultery. Years before I could even grasp the concept of flirting, I was warned that flirting is a very bad and dangerous thing to do. Useless to say, I was never to have a girlfriend; never to hang out with chicas without adult supervision. One day, I could get married with one single, virgin female, and that wasn’t anywhere close to happening. And so I did what humans do best: I adapted. I masturbated; and felt guilty for it. So here I am, almost 30 years old, never really learned much about flirting techniques, but I have learned that it is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; always&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; better to be honest than manipulative. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;Instead of having fun and learning the skills I could now benefit from as an adult, I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours going door to door, every Saturday morning (and other days of the week too). I would grab all my courage and knock at the door; if given a chance to talk, I would repeat what I was indoctrinated into believing. Thanks to this, I’ve probably faced more rejections during my teenage than you could ever face in your lifetime. It was systematic door-after-door rejection; with a few exceptions. So I missed out on all of the peaceful awakenings (and morning cartoons); but I did learn that it is possible to be incredibly courageous despite being completely terrified.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t85PwUfeHXw/Ts85AJnKr4I/AAAAAAAAAE4/jfJbQCjPerM/s1600/cheeses.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="232" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-t85PwUfeHXw/Ts85AJnKr4I/AAAAAAAAAE4/jfJbQCjPerM/s320/cheeses.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;It was near the end of my teenage that I finally started to rebel. Seeing how I was questioning her faith and refusing to attend church, my mother became frightened, even terrified that I might not be granted eternal life after all. The abominable idea that she could spend the rest of eternity living &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;"happily&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; in paradise, having failed to save me from her loving God's wrath; &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; she just couldn't handle. Looking back, I now suspect that my mom was probably suffering from emotional trauma. Having been abused herself, she must have been a perfect target for cults at the time. I do realize that religion wasn't the cause of all her psychological issues; however, it certainly acted as a catalyst and it also prevented her from ever seeking professional help. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;In the business of witnessing Jehovah, public image is unfortunately more important than anybody's health.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;Even today, I'm forced to admit that although I was able to escape by developing some basic critical thinking skills, the mind programming has still been partially successful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;I’m not always happy but somehow, I stay under the impression that I should always look as if I am.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; In social situations involving more than two people, I am often so worried about external judgment that I just shy away from opportunities to make new friends (social anxiety/phobia appears to be a common issue among people who have escaped from mind-control based religions). It makes me mad that even though I've completely changed my mind and try my best to view things rationally, I still sometimes find myself acting exactly the way I was conditioned to, as a child.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt; I can see perfectly well why people would allow others to tell them how to act or think; even a perverted guide like religion can sound attractive if only compared to the frightening thought of being left accountable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-2256603888129437823?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/2256603888129437823/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/ups-and-downs-of-escaping.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/2256603888129437823'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/2256603888129437823'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/ups-and-downs-of-escaping.html' title='Leaving a cult and its side effects (behind)'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KyVddjDuYt4/Ts8pd7khLbI/AAAAAAAAAEw/lYOO6xDbAu0/s72-c/nonjw.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-2264373987520489870</id><published>2011-11-21T07:45:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T19:40:42.054-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='side effects of faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hard-wired for belief'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='need for guidance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='confirmation bias'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='search for guidance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='child indoctrination'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social implications of religion'/><title type='text'>The search for guidance</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;In mydiscussions with believers and atheists alike, one of the things that often strike meis how it seems perfectly acceptable for many to believe that most other people around them are simply unable to handle the&lt;i&gt; truth&lt;/i&gt;: A very animalistic vision of the world, stating that we must either be followedor followers. Basically, we constantly get this strange and fuzzy feeling that humankind appears to be clueless and in desperate need of guidance; that things just wouldn't work if we didn't have smart leaders out there, pulling the strings. Little do we seem to realize the terrible implication attached to a belief like that: If this assumption was to be true, it would suggest that we just cannot realistically aspire to remain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; genuine, humble and autonomous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; at the same time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It instead suggests that if &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;we &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;truly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; want to be successful in life, we must hide the truth from most, ensuring that they remain enslaved. Not doing this would basically mean living our lives as sheep, unaware of all the fun we're missing. Finally, any attempt to stay "in between" would condemn us to a life of confusion caused by a lack of both guidance and ruling ambition. It also seems a little strange that the large majority of people aroundus are, at least in our perception, the ones who we feel are in need of this "guidance". And yet these doomed-to-be "followers" who we are semi-consciously despising for their blissful ignorance, are also quite certainly under a very similar impression about us. Can this possibly be a valid conception of reality?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0NMuqSrMdBA/TsvO6pDJzoI/AAAAAAAAADw/dXGC18gzgac/s1600/red-pill.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="201" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0NMuqSrMdBA/TsvO6pDJzoI/AAAAAAAAADw/dXGC18gzgac/s400/red-pill.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Speaking of guidance, have you everwondered what it is that makes certain insects go completely crazy wheneverthey get close to a lit light bulb? A quite plausible hypothesis I’ve read from the evolutionary scientist as well as best-selling author Richard Dawkins, starts by pointing out that over themillions of years during which these insects evolved, there were no artificial light sources; just the sun and the moon.Naturally, these insects may have acclimated themselves to making use of the latter as a reliable way to orient in space. According to this theory, it seems easy enoughto assume why they would become really confused at the sight of an artificial light source, especially in the middle of the night.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Since they’re not used to being so close tothe actual light source, it probably fools their calculations, leading them to a painful death caused by the heat generated byincandescent lighting. Let's face it, if you're going to try using the position of the sun to calculate the angle at which you should be flying, but end up thinking that the boiling hot light bulb above you is actually the sun, your trajectory is doomed to be as wrong as wrong can possibly get. To put this ironically, the popularnotion that we seem to be “hard-wired” to believe things despite insufficient evidence, does seem to baresome truth, even for insects.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Curiously, when it comes to our human ways of handling such mentalguidance issues, defenders of most religions love to use the general observation that we seem "hard-wired for belief&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;. They like to argue that it must mean we're searching for something divine, or at least capable of giving us the feeling of being part of something larger than us: afeeling of transcendence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; Perhaps they’re right about the feeling or even about the search for divine revelation; anybody could be right without evidence, even if only by accident. But this feeling does not appear to be exclusive to religious experiences. We've&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; probably experienced it in one context or another, whether it was seeing our favorite team winning an important sporting event, a large-scale music concert that we waited for years to see, or from practicing meditation alone in a cave for an extended period of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--qyIEWywvKg/Tsvs4hnharI/AAAAAAAAAEY/oQOuhyqcYJw/s1600/johnny_butterfly.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="212" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--qyIEWywvKg/Tsvs4hnharI/AAAAAAAAAEY/oQOuhyqcYJw/s320/johnny_butterfly.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It is a matter of fact that most humans crave this feeling, and organized religions, because of their mystical claims and group structures, happen to be very good at providing it; at least, they seem capable to do so for a large majority of people. Let's stay honest though. Can any feeling, however extraordinary is it to the person who experiences it, actually say anything useful about the nature of the cosmos? Is it not true that the same feeling could have just as well been attributed to Poseidon or Osiris, had it been experienced by someone else thousands of years ago? What's much more likely to be happening when we attribute transcendence to a supernatural cause, is that we're experiencing a very common kind of mental miscalculation called &lt;i&gt;confirmation bias&lt;/i&gt;. We are naturally inclined to try proving our preconceptions by prioritizing the evidence appearing to be confirming them. Any evidence against is given less, or no importance; therefore, we always feel right. We don't do it only with religion; this is basically the way our brain works. Perhaps is it needless to say: this is also the exact opposite of how science works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It is also one of the major reasons why the discovery of science has opened a floodgate of untapped potential for humans. Science is about trying to prove ourselves wrong. It is the antidote to the illusion of rightness that has plagued our development since the beginning of times. Now, looking at this from the perspective of another species that spent millions of years developing a working guidance mechanism and is now heading to extinction simply because it cannot adapt to its changing environment, I cannot help but consider the possibility that when it comes to our most basic human instincts, religion could be quite analogousto that kind of misguidance. Those who cannot adapt are justless likely to succeed in a future riddled with change. They would be better off developing a new guidancesystem rather than trying to rely on an old-fashioned one that works only some of the times. But why is it then that most of us humans hold so passionately to religion, grabbing to the scraps of data that it can still claim to explain, refusing to acknowledge that it explains less and less, day after day? Confirmation bias, perhaps?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ygUiHROlVD8/TsvbA3Hk3jI/AAAAAAAAAEA/fme62_1cfj0/s1600/lemmings.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="244" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ygUiHROlVD8/TsvbA3Hk3jI/AAAAAAAAAEA/fme62_1cfj0/s320/lemmings.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Overthe course of our own evolution, we have been in the dark about many questions relatedto human suffering, several of which we now have scientific answers to. We know that for a period&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; roughly estimated to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; 100,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; years, our ancestors averagelife expectancy was just twenty years. Life was not about seeking happiness but more like a never-ending horror movie. Seeing loved ones die for all sorts of unexplainable causes, living in constant fear of the next natural disaster, hiding day and night from all kinds of dangerous predators, we were vulnerable and clueless; if a divine creator truly existed, then considering just this, I think we could justly question his compassion. As timepassed, we developed increasingly complex models to explain things that were deeply affecting us, in the best way that we could. These models gave birth to religion and later, philosophy. Religions evolved into social structures and became used as ways to keep large communities together, ways to rule over entire countries by claiming power from a divine authority.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Many of us, religious or not, now see all the fabrication and brainwashing tactics used. We understand that the critical reason why the big religions of today are still surviving, is child indoctrination. However, most of us still believe that religion is a necessary crutch for a majority of the "weak-minded followers" we secretly despise (and count ourselves apart from, of course). Even some of our greatest scientists tend to see religion as something like chemotherapy: &lt;i&gt;We know it does a lot of harm but because there's no better treatment available, we don't really have a choice but to go along with it.&lt;/i&gt; Too many of us still cannot help but try to conciliate myth with reality. Some literally teach the biblical creation story to their children as fact, in spite of the evidence for evolution. Others criticize science for not knowing everything; the list of absurdities said in the name of religion goes on and on. We just can't seem to be able to adapt. Instead, we've come to accept the terrible side effects of faith, and have learned to live with its complications.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b0Dwbnt28jg/TsvtgCu2wDI/AAAAAAAAAEg/vlcAMS5ATnw/s1600/StairwayToHeaven-D-4d.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b0Dwbnt28jg/TsvtgCu2wDI/AAAAAAAAAEg/vlcAMS5ATnw/s320/StairwayToHeaven-D-4d.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;We have also been taught by religion that it is not only okay but necessary to lie about our beliefs when people we know are afflicted by death. We pretend that we &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; their loved ones are in a better place; worse, that they will meet again someday. But in fact, our own doubts transpire in the way we dread the loss of our own. Rather than being happy that they're leaving for a better place, we cry like we'll never see them again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; Most of us have grown up to understand the improbability of life after death but because we are so dependent on each other and because of the social implications of religion, we seem unable to let go, for the sake of others whose feelings we do not want to hurt. In fact, the main reason for which we need religion... is probably religionitself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;For an instant, please reflect upon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; the educational system of any secular country. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Even in such environments, since early childhood, we have all been made accustomed to beinggrouped and subjected to an all-knowing authority from whom we had to follow instructions and learn without questioning too much. Doyou sometimes stop and wonder why it is that most college students seem to find that their philosophy class is biased towards the teacher’s views? The reason seems to me quite simple: our school system, however secular it tries to be, was designed centuries ago by religions, with religious goals in mind. Just like when a company changes its direction, theprevious owners may have left&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; already&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;; the business structure &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;remains similar &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;for a while still.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P8NQZMAZvrk/TsvdyMa0uSI/AAAAAAAAAEI/bJKWjjb1loA/s1600/clueless+students.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="212" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P8NQZMAZvrk/TsvdyMa0uSI/AAAAAAAAAEI/bJKWjjb1loA/s320/clueless+students.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Will there ever be hope for our descendants to build a society in which everyone can be allowed to reach his full psychological, emotional and intellectual potential?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; It is hard to tell but one thing is sure: the only real answers we'll ever find to the mysteries of life are not located in a book; they lie in the most determining quality that we have come to develop over the last centuries: unconstrained &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;curiosity. How interesting in fact, that curiosity doesnot require any kind of external guidance. In high doses, it does sometimes kill the cat, as the saying says; but more than often, it is exactly what allows us to break out of the mold and come up with interesting new purposes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;We are by far the most adaptable species alive on Earth today. We have survived for so long, not because we were more aggressive, or stronger, or cleverer than other species, but because we couldadapt to change. And change is coming for us; it will keep coming as long as we live. Polls being conducted all around the world suggest that religion is disappearing at a steadily increasing rate. Even in the most religious countries like Brazil, statistics are betraying our unsatisfiable willingness to search further for the truth, no matter how inconvenient it may turn out to be. This trend is observable and understandable. Regardless of the difficulties involved in adapting to the new issues we will face in an increasingly atheistic world, we can already benefit from recognizing the placebo effect of faith and prayer. We have everything to gain from seeing faith for what it is; much to lose if we keep relying on myth in a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; delusive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;fictitious&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;search for guidance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2FkCD8Fs-XI/Ts2RnwVY_3I/AAAAAAAAAEo/1a-MMTjLM1s/s1600/lost+sheep.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="267" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2FkCD8Fs-XI/Ts2RnwVY_3I/AAAAAAAAAEo/1a-MMTjLM1s/s400/lost+sheep.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-2264373987520489870?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/2264373987520489870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/search-for-guidance.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/2264373987520489870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/2264373987520489870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/search-for-guidance.html' title='The search for guidance'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0NMuqSrMdBA/TsvO6pDJzoI/AAAAAAAAADw/dXGC18gzgac/s72-c/red-pill.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>Montreal, QC, Canada</georss:featurename><georss:point>45.5086699 -73.5539925</georss:point><georss:box>45.3306269 -73.8698495 45.6867129 -73.23813550000001</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-2345980155099780112</id><published>2011-11-18T07:08:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-02-15T13:25:53.278-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='islam treatment of women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='islamophobia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='angering the religion of peace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='freedom of speech'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='honor killing'/><title type='text'>Angering the religion of peace</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-83-ToUdDNmU/TsgsBomeaXI/AAAAAAAAACQ/Q_t7NKmEq1c/s1600/september+12.jpg" imageanchor="1"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="266" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-83-ToUdDNmU/TsgsBomeaXI/AAAAAAAAACQ/Q_t7NKmEq1c/s400/september+12.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;September 12, 2001, Montreal, Canada&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;About 500 kilometers down south, something big has just happened. People are praying, hoping that what they're witnessing is just a terrible nightmare. Mildly unaware, I'm at the grocery store, buying milk. As I look at them uncomfortably, I can feel a hopeless mix of shame and anxiousness as their eyes turn away nervously. And suddenly it hits me. How is it even statistically possible that every Arab I've ever met, is a Muslim? Doesn't look like a choice to me...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten years have passed; since then, I've had a chance to meet people from many parts of the world, including Muslims. After all, this is Montreal. Considering my experience as a person with a genuine atheistic interest in trying to make sense of religious subjects, I believe it would be fair from me to express what I think about the mega-religion known as Islam. Although I'm not aiming to be uselessly provocative, I'm going to be terribly honest and say that it seems dangerously troubling how a large number of Muslims I've spoken to seemed unable to acknowledge some very important modern facts; it's as if something seems to be keeping them from it. Yet, in  order for things not to go terribly wrong, it is &lt;b&gt;necessary&lt;/b&gt; for everyone to be able to  criticize a broadly accepted ideology, openly and without fear of  retaliation. It appears to me very problematic that most public criticism coming from outside of Islam  is hardly analyzed but instead dismissed, even by the non-Islamic world, as if it were nothing more than primitive xenophobia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--5tkOD4JOIY/TsgsA19-3-I/AAAAAAAAACI/e4xt6a_3Yqg/s1600/punk+not+ded.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="236" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--5tkOD4JOIY/TsgsA19-3-I/AAAAAAAAACI/e4xt6a_3Yqg/s400/punk+not+ded.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Yet another honor killing on the horizon?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;But in reality, even inside their own culture, courageous critics are most often met with extreme violence (including death threats),  repression or denial. Salman Rushdie and Ayaan Hirsi Ali come to mind, both threatened with death, not for having commited violent actions but for their ideas, books, or even fleeing an arranged marriage in the case of the latter. It really doesn't seem to matter to most Muslims whether such critics originated from  sheer ignorance or well-researched and carefully constructed  arguments. Besides, even when the immediate response turns out to be a moderate one, chances are that the proposition will never be dealt  with in a manner that's even remotely constructive. This is a problem not only for us but for Muslims too, I'm pretty sure. It's becoming increasingly foolish to deny this; we hear about it all the time. Every once in a while, you can read depressing news stories about little girls stabbed to death by their dad because they were abandoning the faith; even worse, they were commiting the preposterous sin of becoming too "westernized". Talking of xenophobia...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This kind of violence is almost unique to Islam; no matter how much we try to ignore it, it keeps happening and happening. Strangely, when I read articles about this, I can rest assured not to find much being mentionned about the religious nature of the crime. Let's be serious here, the father isn't denying the murder nor his religious motive; he's the one who called the police to brag about it, only to be sentenced to life-time prison with a smile. He knows it was God's will, he knows deep within his heart that he did the right thing; his miserable earthly life doesn't matter because he'll be rewarded in heaven when he finally gets his own chance to die. Quite suspicious for a religion claiming to be fundamentally peaceful, indeed. Whenever asked why the Islam-only censorship, the reply from mainstream media is something along these lines: we don't want to offend our moderate Muslim friends by rubbing salt into the wound. Let's face it, in the "religion of peace" when it comes to freedom of speech, a disturbingly large minority of people indeed seems to be moderate about the "peace" part. Really, what is there to be "moderate" about if the fundamentals of something are supposedly about peacefulness? Too many questions we dare not ask.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--0RqdFJDgdw/TsgxP_Y1cQI/AAAAAAAAACw/8daP1EquCsc/s1600/simpson+scared.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="226" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--0RqdFJDgdw/TsgxP_Y1cQI/AAAAAAAAACw/8daP1EquCsc/s400/simpson+scared.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Why of course - cartoonists too can be a threat to world peace&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;When it comes to freedom of expression, Islam is by far the most difficult  religion to deal with. Even where I live in Canada, all  it takes is one sentence to realize that whenever the subject of religion comes up, Islam remains the only big religion that you cannot talk about without making everyone really uncomfortable. Whatever  the problem is and whatever the sources of this problem are, there is a  problem. It causes discomfort and is not just an irrational fear caused by media. It always seems so vague and difficult to pinpoint but does seem to have a lot to do with the  idea that criticizing Islam is mistaken for racism even by Muslims who  should know that Islam is not their race but their religion. If even &lt;b&gt;they&lt;/b&gt; manage to confuse race/culture/religion as being some kind of  indissoluble melting pot, then imagine how difficult it can be for  other people. So we get to a point where we feel as if what Muslims really want for us is nothing more than to be  afraid of offending their "sacred" ideas. And that didn't happen just by watching some  idiotic and misleading Fox News program. It is their reaction that people tend to be  afraid of and deep in our subconscious, we all know why. The cowardly way by which we handle this particular issue is ridiculous to such an extent that thinking about it leaves most people speechless and terrified.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Dear moderate Muslim: It is only ironic that part of any  Muslim faith has to do with hoping for the end of the world, for a final godly judgment during  which everyone who rejects your faith is supposed to perish in a big war that possibly even involves human weapons; about the  necessity of spreading Islam throughout the world to accomplish some  holy prophecy; and despite these clear facts, whenever we talk about your religion to  you, all we get is this apparent state of denial about what Islam really  is about: a wish for things to end, a wish for us "infidels" to either convert or  die, by whatever mean your invisible God deems appropriate when the time comes  for me to pay for my lack of belief. People like myself know perfectly well that Islam is not centered around just flying planes in buildings  and that the majority of you are peaceful beings, but we also know that  literal interpretation of ancient Islamic text can easily lead (and have lead)  to such acts. We know that much of the Qur'an is not peaceful at all; we just don't buy your ridiculous "lost in translation" plead to misinterpretation, by the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UifgXYgTKhI/TsgsCytQKDI/AAAAAAAAACg/swPzlViI9FA/s1600/gender+inequality+paradox.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="260" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UifgXYgTKhI/TsgsCytQKDI/AAAAAAAAACg/swPzlViI9FA/s400/gender+inequality+paradox.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Afghanistan: Female USA soldiers encouraged to "blend in"&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;We all know for a fact that Islamic laws only give half the value  to a woman's testimony in Shariah court; apparently they're too stupid to have more than half a grasp on reality. We know, just as well as you probably see when you compare your culture to Western cultures, that  your religion is sexist and that just like all the other  religions and cultures out there including mine, there's a lot of space for improvement. The rest of the educated world also thinks that you really should get over with the fact that we're just a very lucky mammalian species, and stop rejecting the theory of evolution. It may be "just a theory" as you like to say; it's been proven out of any reasonable doubt to be true by thousands and thousands of experiments. We know that you are not stupid; your ancestors contributed a huge share of the science we have today, while the Christians were stuck in a dark age of violent religious nonsense themselves. But today, you're just looking like fools for rejecting serious scientific knowledge. All that's needed to understand the basic framework of evolution through natural selection is curiosity, as well as humility. It requires not a shred of faith. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you've read this far, without shutting your mind off at the mere sight of honest, albeit mildly-aggressive common sense, you're pretty good. You're probably starting to understand that what people like me think of  your religion is not necessarily as ignorant as the paradoxical notion of "islamophobia" would like to have you believe. A lamentable attempt to portray any kind of outside criticism as some sort of racism against (I hope you see what's wrong here...) your religion, designed so that you can be shielded from external ideas, instead drawing  comfort in thinking that you're being persecuted. You're not being persecuted; you're being offered a chance to start a &lt;i&gt;bullshit-free&lt;/i&gt; kind of dialogue with a secular world in which religion is slowly disappearing. If you're not yet cursing but still thinking straight after all this hurtful reading, then please realize that you are part of a very small and slowly growing minority. The entire world is crossing fingers, hoping that your religion will not take as much time as Christianity did to evolve into a more peaceful one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Aoheq8ep0wU/Tsg7nebFhkI/AAAAAAAAADI/dQ4x7cYRlTY/s1600/theo.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="235" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Aoheq8ep0wU/Tsg7nebFhkI/AAAAAAAAADI/dQ4x7cYRlTY/s400/theo.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Theo Van Gogh: Murdered for making a 10-minute movie critical of Islam&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;During the Christian inquisition, nuclear weapons didn't exist. We do not have the luxury to wait centuries; we need you to hurry before it gets too late. Anything you can do to help Islam get past its own dark age is not only welcome, it can help ensure the short-term survival of our species. When we look at the millions of moderate Muslims, we don't want to see you just praying and waiting for peace, no; we wish to see a massive as well as outspoken rejection of extremism. We are not feeling it yet, whatever it is that you pretend. If you were part of a political party acting like this, you would  have either kicked all the crazy people out, or have left it in disgust a long time ago. Your inaction is interpreted by the entire world as silent acceptance.  When Bush wanted to attack Iraq, you could see the massive demonstrations all around the western world, voicing their disgust at all the obvious lies; we didn't see a lot of public outrage from you after 9/11. Considering there are over a billion of you, I don't think we would have missed it. Were you all too busy praying about it? Now that I think of it, tons of Palestinians were indeed out there, dancing in the streets. Not sure if that counts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your people have inspired the world in a beautiful way, last spring. Your refusal to submit to injustice and your will to express yourself in spite of the threat of violent repression, all of this leaves a lot for everyone to learn from. But when it comes to that which you deem holy, your general understanding of free speech still leaves much room for improvement. Let's be serious for once. If Allah needs to defend Islam against cartoonists who broke his religious laws, and if he's so powerful, then why don't you let him? Why is it that nobody ever gets death threats from their parents for leaving Christianity nowadays?  Although they're not the only problem obviously, to tell the truth, divisive and  conquering religions such as Islam, Christianity and Judeism have never been of much help to world peace. We don't care about your imaginary end of  the world but it does worry us that it might turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy if the Iranian people do not wake up and overthrow their sick religious leaders. Let's stop shifting the blame. It won't do either of us any good when crazy religious fanatics get ahold of nukes and start believing that God wants them to press the button. These people are not just religious, they're mentaly ill, and they're in power for all the wrong reasons; religious reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NLf5E9yhjX0/TsgsCiG-87I/AAAAAAAAACY/T3gHzjP5Du4/s1600/all+together.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NLf5E9yhjX0/TsgsCiG-87I/AAAAAAAAACY/T3gHzjP5Du4/s400/all+together.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although I cannot possibly speak for everyone here, I'm very confident that most if not all of us atheists, just want this present world to regain some of its sanity. Denying the existence of inherent problems within Islam to outsiders  and possibly even to yourself is counterproductive in every imaginable way. When I see interviews like the ones in Bill Maher's  movie &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slei9WmopAc"&gt;Religulous&lt;/a&gt;, I find it very difficult to tell if you really are in denial...  or if you know that something isn't right, but are choosing to lie  because you cannot think of an alternate behavior. Do you seriously think that your religion has &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; the answers? Can't you see that it doesn't? If we talk about this to you and inevitably get that kind of evasive reply, how are we supposed to deal with it when it clearly seems to us that your political agenda is not at all peaceful towards those of us who refuse to believe? How can we really respect you when we can't know whether you're attempting to be genuine or just being deceitful in order to foster your religious leaders' clear interest for world domination?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5525827879646286556-2345980155099780112?l=www.weareallatheists.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/feeds/2345980155099780112/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/angering-religion-of-peace.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/2345980155099780112'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5525827879646286556/posts/default/2345980155099780112'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.weareallatheists.com/2011/11/angering-religion-of-peace.html' title='Angering the religion of peace'/><author><name>Psyence</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12364384110531146273</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr8Zsr7gQXs/TuQrcufgWmI/AAAAAAAAAH4/_WOhBFbAPiw/s220/hideface.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-83-ToUdDNmU/TsgsBomeaXI/AAAAAAAAACQ/Q_t7NKmEq1c/s72-c/september+12.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5525827879646286556.post-603024508830394080</id><published>2011-11-15T23:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T19:35:56.872-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='noah&apos;s ark'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science and religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criticism of religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='how friendly can religion get towards science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='critical thinking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='skepticism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jesus resurection'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='scientific inquiry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jesus and thomas'/><title type='text'>How friendly can religion get towards science?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Have you ever read the story of Jesus' resurrection?Perhaps you might want to read it again, this time from a fresh and “science-friendly”point of view:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;You see, there's this very interesting part, shortlyafter Jesus rose from the dead, where he briefly appears in a room in which hisdisciples are gathered. One of them, named Thomas, has been insisting onremaining skeptical about the issue of resurrection. He doesn't want to believeyet; at least, not until he's witnessed some evidence. After all, might he be thinking,perhaps it is just hype; perhaps the others have been honestly mistaken. Hecertainly wouldn't want to spread false information and since his friends haveno evidence, no pictures and no recordings, he decides that before he's goingto believe any of it, he needs to see it with his own eyes.&amp;nbsp; Fair enough?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-feo1q1D71GU/TscpUWC450I/AAAAAAAAAB4/s6USoFUldrM/s1600/thomas.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="199" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-feo1q1D71GU/TscpUWC450I/AAAAAAAAAB4/s6USoFUldrM/s320/thomas.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Well, it doesn’t seem so. Notsatisfied about having been able to convince Thomas, Jesus now deems essentialto tease him by making a little speech about it. This great philosopher of histime goes out of his way to put a strong emphasis on how foolish it was from Thomas to insistfor evidence. Because it's obviously foolish to dare questioning the resurrectionof someone whom you’ve witnessed dying a slow death on a cross, tortured andpunctured. From this moment in biblical “history” it becomes clear why modern sciencewill not be discovered for a long time after Jesus. And we’re also getting a pretty good feeling of how many hardships our very first scientists will have to overcome before they even start being takenseriously. People tend to believe that trust is better than inquiry. Since biblical times, we’ve made quite a lot of progress. Whoever you aretoday, for example, you most certainly know that epilepsy isn’t caused by demonic possession. You also know that bats are mammals, just like us; not birds, as divinely revealed in Leviticus. But doesn’t this leave you wondering how far the scientific enterprise would be today if we hadhad more people like Thomas and fewer like Jesus?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;I was read this story by my parents, back when I waspretty young. They were sincerely convinced that the entire story of the bible literallyhappened. Up until today, they still believe that Noah's ark really existed.Unlike you and me, they never really stopped to wonder how it is that the kangaroosand polar bears managed to even get on the ark. They’ve never really thoughtabout how Noah and his family were able to find anything to drink after gettingout of the ark, considering that all oceans had been mixed with any availablesource of drinking water for forty days and forty nights. Neither did they stopto wonder just how ridiculously huge the ark would have needed to be inorder to store all the food needed for each species to survive or the excrementproduced by the entire ecosystem they were supposedly carrying along. The biblesays you shouldn’t question the bible, simple as that. And yet, even as a child, I could already feelthe cognitive dissonance going around in my head as a result from hearing suchnonsense. Today, I find it quite interesting how the narrative sostrongly and shamelessly suggests that a person who honestly wants evidenceshould be publicly ridiculed by someone who’s supposed to be an ultimate moralguide as well as wise, loving and perfect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RCI-Ie7920U/Tscon7CJMmI/AAAAAAAAABw/UEQp4bQrRis/s1600/ark.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="232" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RCI-Ie7920U/Tscon7CJMmI/AAAAAAAAABw/UEQp4bQrRis/s320/ark.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone who understands the very basics of scientific inquiry would probably findthat Thomas at least had somewhat of a scientific mind, otherwise he wouldn't have been inclined to skeptical thinking. But few of us really stop tothink about what science is and why it's so important. We leave it to theelite, pretending that it's extremely complicated. We easily forget the simplicity of whatactually makes science work. Science can even be applied to thinking, in theform of&amp;nbsp; rules of logic and evidence, eliminating bias by trying to prove oneself wrong rather than right. Thisability to think freely is exactly what, unlike religious people, allows us atheiststo say: Perhaps there is no God; perhaps we’ve been wrong all along. Ithas given us the means to think without faith-based restraints and even anincentive to do so. Science says: "If there really is truth to it, then we shouldn't fear trying to disprove it. Let's test if prayer actually works, for example; let’s do it in a scientificenvironment." Science doesn't require us to reject certain views on the basisthat they contradict previous notions. If the truth happens to be very inconvenient, we want to know anyway, because it’s the truth we’re interestedin.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Thomas should have trusted his comrades without questioning or so does thenarrative naively wants you to believe. Although his character's role clearly shows mild signs of scientific awakening, he isn't a veryimportant character in the biblical story; it's quite obvious why. We'll probably never know if he evenexisted, but one thing we do know is that people usually do not rise from thedead. Of course, anyone could argue that it did happen, but on what basisother than faith? Come to think of it, we wouldn’t believe it either if a bunch of excited people came tellingus that they saw John Lennon walking in the street. Scientific improbability aswell as a lack of evidence leads us to believe that none of the Gospel's many resurrections ever happened. Most of of the strangest parts of the bible are obviously very likely to have been made up, or at least exagerated by people who didn't quite realize just how ridiculous their claims would sound to us, thousands of years later. The one about Jesus and Thomas, from the perspective of science, stands today as an awfully bad moral lesson. 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